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I’m sorry I was away from the forums for so long! These posts are all so great. <3
That whole segment is probably my favourite part of the entire chapter. I ship the OT3, like most sensible folk. Still, Kiyoshi accepts Ayase in a different way than Sachi does. Sachi
and Kadoloves her even though he can read her mind; Kiyoshi loves her even though her body is really goddamn weird. And I ship that, too.
There are always little moments I put into the book that I’m afraid are too sappy, and this was one of them, so I’m really glad you liked it–that’s a relief! *lol* I guess it’s not as corny as my original idea of Ayase literally reforming in his arms, which would have been WAY too much, heh. You’re right that Ayase’s relationship with Kiyoshi has always been more physical than mental, and that this is the sweet side of what would normally feel superficial: “I love your body, no matter what it goes through. Just please let me touch it.” He would get SUPER into her being pregnant, for example. Oh man, that’s a discussion for another day. :D
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one seriously invested in Mitsuko and Jo’s relationship. I’ll save the gushy paragraphs for my entry in the shipping contest, but suffice to say that I’m going to continue shipping it until their inevitable miserable breakup. Then I’ll make myself consolation tea.
This made me laugh so hard, Olivia.
I do adore their relationship and this chapter was like, perfect for showing why Mitsuko is especially really good for Jo. She’s free with her love, which in a way can take a ton of pressure off of someone (instead of viewing love as this rare thing that’s oceans deep that can be terrifying for some), and also she shows Jo that even if she loves Miki and loved Takeshi, she doesn’t forget about Jo. She didn’t HAVE to text Jo. She didn’t HAVE to choose to communicate with him when everything was a mess, but she did.
I love your analysis, Pachi. Jo scares easy, but Mitsuko is the queen of No Pressure. It sounds so unromantic like that, but it works, since both of them are hyper-rational (except for Mitsuko’s thrill-seeking problem, and Jo’s phobia of prison/getting caught). We’re going to delve into Jo and Mitsuko a LOT more in Tokyo Ghosts, which I’m really looking forward to. I think they’re much more interesting when they’re in their early 20s. :D
The Miki, Mitsuko, Jo and the gang situation. There is something about Miki and Mitsuko’s relationship that I love, it isn’t all sparks and fire – although I would describe it that way if I had to because I am not sure what to call it – they seem to have this raw desire to live and fight to show that they do so and it shows in their relationship too. UGH
Aw, I’m glad you like it, Becky. <3 Miki and Mitsuko were best friends long before they were lovers, and their friendship/partnership is way stronger than their romance, hence the, uh, lack of sparks most of the time. *lol* But if you heard the Miki Date CD, Miki basically uses Byakko as his surrogate family, and Mitsuko considers the Riot Girls a giant mass of little sisters, so their passion is coming out here in defending their own. And that includes each other!
So glad you guys liked this story, heh. <3 We might have a little more news about it soon... *cough*
Hey, Olivia! Here’s the $200 tier list:
Off*Beat Vol 1-3
Tokyo Demons Vol 1-2
Tokyo Demons Cherry Bomb Collection (coming out late summer/early fall)
The Ring of Saturn
Mahou Josei Chimaka
Orange Junk Vol 1
Windrose Vol 1
Gatesmith Vol 1 (coming out late summer/early fall)
Dusk in Kalevia (coming out fall)
Dead Endings (coming out late summer/early fall)
Awake Chap 1 CD + Cat Lover’s Circumstances Chap 1 CD
We’re probably going to make a graphic of that for Friday’s Kickstarter update, heh.
As for substitutions, those two CDs (as a set) generally retail for $8 when we sell them at cons, so you could swap them out for one ebook, if you wanted? Just leave a clear note in the post-Kickstarter survey making a request like that.
As an update, we’re almost at $6K in the Kickstarter, whee! XD
When I wrote two high school students, I didn’t put in cursing in, but I personally didn’t want to see it in my writing, but then realized that wasn’t how my kids talked, except around me and other adults (mostly). Around their friends I’m sure they swear up a storm.
Although that’s probably true (heh), you don’t need to literally include cursing to make teenagers sound real. Network TV doesn’t have a lot of cursing, but it has widely accepted representations of teenagers on a bunch of shows. Watch some TV for inspiration! Bad grammar, apathy, and crass-but-not-cursing language can all sound realistic.
“Ew, get away from me.”
“Wha? That sucks!”
“I’m not gonna eat that crap.”
“Can you believe she said that? She’s THE WORST!”
Even after making some adjustments, it took me a while to get used to it. I guess I just find it hard to be casual with my dialog sometimes. I’ve done so much formal writing that it’s hard to break.
Another potential exercise: write as comfortably/naturally as possible for a few pages, and at the end, literally copy and paste ONLY your dialogue lines into a separate document. Then write 2-3 alternatives for each dialogue line before deciding what to paste back in.
Sorry for the late reply!
I wish I could’ve made that chart into a better infographic (like a colored wheel or something), but I’m glad the point got across! Character dialogue is about more than just speech patterns–it’s about the way a character communicates overall.
However, to simplify: if you want a great rundown of a single sentence translated through different speech patterns (something we always deal with in manga translation/adaptation), check out William Flanagan’s amazing list in the middle of this article.
I get annoyed when all characters have the same voice, too. Joss Whedon falls into this sometimes–the guy’s a great writer, but he has an almost slavish dedication to the quip, which makes all his characters start sounding the same after a while. If they ALL sound witty, who’s supposed to be the witty one? O.o
This is the greatest compliment I’ve ever received.
Way to shank all the OT3 shippers in the feels, Lianne.
No wait, this one.
This story is totally standalone, actually–dee and I wanted to collaborate on a one-shot that could be read in a vacuum (bubble? :D), so this is separate from the other projects we have going. I’m so glad you liked it!
(And isn’t dee’s art and visual storytelling incredible? She’s an architect, so her buildings are fantastic, but she draws the best faces and body language. Her webcomic Grey Is… is basically just BOYS HAVING FEELINGS ALL THE TIME and it will TEAR YOUR HEART OUT.)
We’re going to keep doing some audio-original features for Tokyo Demons, and we might do small pieces of Books 2 and 3 in audio form, but no, only Book 1 is getting the full dramatized audio book treatment.
If demand for Book 2 Audio skyrocketed, we might consider it, but it’s a huge project we wouldn’t enter lightly. :) And for now, Rebecca has moved on to Sparkler’s other audio projects, and the original work there is fantastic. I really recommend it!
Hey, as long as the line between fiction and reality is nice and thick, and no one thinks I’m romanticizing that kind of abuse, ship whatever makes you happy. *lol* You’re not the first reader to be into those guys, dysfunction and all. There’s certainly…history there.
Now I’m wondering if you’ve read the Touya scene in Chapter 3, Part 1 yet. :)February 12, 2015 at 10:58 pm in reply to: Tokyo Demons Book 3: Prologue + Chapter 1 discussion #12519
Serials live or die by their pacing, so I’m glad you approve. :) I have possibly the shortest attention span in the world, so I use my own boredom meter as a gauge to keep things moving.
I think because we’ve seen Touya through the first and second books as pretty much invincible it kind of bothers me to see him showing weakness. It feels wrong, in a way.
Also: SO upset that Ochi’s dead actually because Nakajima is one of my favourites and she shouldn’t have to suffer like that and Ochi’s life shouldn’t have ended so abruptly I feel so sorry for him and they’re my otp dammit-
That’s a very loaded OTP, ha ha! Yeah, sorry…Touya is especially murderous when it comes to psychics, and he already knew poor Ochi’s power, so he could work around it. And Ochi didn’t have anyone around to save him like the Kado/Sachi deal. :(
P.S. Is there an AO3 category for this? My fingers are itching to type out bad fan-fiction.
Actually, there isn’t! We’ve been archiving Tokyo Demons fanfiction (we have something like a dozen stories so far) on tokyodemons.com, but an AO3 category would be great…that means the poor fans wouldn’t have to wait for me to post their stuff when I’m so slow to update td.com, heh. I would loooooooooove to read your fanfiction, and if you post it on AO3, I’ll try to get some of the other fanficcers to crosspost on there to buff up the category, too. (If you need an AO3 invite, I do have an account there to post my non-TD fanfics.)
Aw. Thank you, Olivia! XD
Your deductions regarding Kado’s plan are VERY INTERESTING. :D Those little Touya POV scenes are packed with clues about a lot of stuff, and I’m not surprised you’re one of the astute readers picking up on them.
I agree with you on Miki being static – he totally is, almost painfully so – and that shit is going to BLOW soon. The crux of Miki’s personality is his loyalty. It’ll drive him through the next few story updates, which are going to be intense. And you reminded me that I forgot to hyperlink to the Miki Date CD in this new chapter (just fixed it), since that includes some key Miki backstory elements that better round out his feelings about his parents and Mitsuko.
Like Mitsuko being her wonderfully unique self, using her powers of seduction and manipulation to trick people…into doing what’s best for themselves.
Wow, way to nail her characterization, ha ha! XD
We’re glad you like this little taste! The rest of the chapter (which is over 20 minutes) comes out in 4 days, on Monday; we had so many technical problems during our no-grid fiasco this week that we decided to split the chapter and just release what was still okay. Releasing it all in one chunk was too big, anyway – Chapter 1 is huge!
Sebastian is voiced by our CFO (Jill)’s very vocal cat Sulis. All his crazy purring came from Rebecca’s cat Oliver. HR wasn’t sure what to do with those paychecks.
This is fantastic, guys. I’m going to email Capo and SGL now so I can get your mailing addresses – we’ll ship out postcards to you, and you can distribute them in a way you’re comfortable with. Really appreciate this!
Thank you for all your help with this, guys! I’m sorry we’ve been out of touch – the staff member we were hoping to put in charge of the Street Team recently left the company, so we’re reorganizing things. (And the change to Freemium over the last few months basically took all hands on deck, ha ha.)
We’ve gotten confirmation that we have tables or booths at the following shows this year:
TCAF (Toronto Comic Arts Festival): May 9th – 10th, 2015
Connecticon: July 9th – 12th, 2015
Yaoicon: Sept 18th – 20th, 2015
We’ve been trying to arrange a table for Anime North as well (we used to work in that con all the time, and debuted Tokyo Demons Vol 1 there), but haven’t gotten a confirmation or rejection yet. We were considering SPX, but it’s a little far out of our comfort range geographically, so we’ll probably skip it this year.
We’re glad you liked it, Scotty! This episode was VERY loose and rambly, so I’m glad it wasn’t too unwieldy for you, heh. We figured there were enough sex jokes to keep it afloat.